Billy
Kinsley Q&A
Was it good
fun looking back and how impressed are you with the book?
It was
good fun at times looking back over my career, but there
were also many sad things that happened regarding my family
and losing too many great friends far too early in their
life.
I think
Spencer did a great job digging into the archives, checking
stories out, urging me to record the solo album, and
patiently listening to me rambling on - story after story!
We had to stop somewhere but there's still a lot of tales
left to tell!
What
struck me while reading the early chapters was just how
young you were when The Merseybeats took off - is it strange
to think back to just how much happened at that time?
Looking
back it's hard to believe how young I was (14 years old) to
be involved with the music revolution that took place in
Liverpool in the early 60's. I was accepted by all the older
musicians at the time and remain very grateful for that.
There was
an air of excitement everywhere in the city, at every gig we
played - even rehearsing new songs was enjoyable!
Our world
was changing in a way that was unheard of in England.
Working class teenagers becoming professional musicians!! We
didn't expect anything to happen like it did, but I knew
something was really special when I realised that I'd seen
the best band that I'd ever see in my life - on the night I
first saw The Beatles.
Judging from Tony Crane's description of the US tour after
you'd left the band, it's probably a good job if your health
was suffering that you'd made the decision to leave and
weren't part of it.
It was
put out to the press that I was leaving the band because I
was having health problems but that was only part of it.
We had a
manager I disliked immensely from Stockport who was taking
us to the cleaners good style - and it wasn't to get our
suits cleaned!!! He was ripping us off and no one wanted to
do anything about it. When he was finally sacked I went back
in the band but he'd left us with nothing.
You
didn't write any songs for The Merseybeats. Were you a late
developer as a songwriter?
I
wouldn't say I was a late developer when I started writing
because I was still only 17 years old when I wrote my first
song. Tony and Aaron got theirs in before me!
We did a
lot of covers in The Merseybeats as the other Liverpool
bands did and we'd never looked at writing our own, but when
John Gustafson took over from me he pushed them to write
their own. He had been writing when he was with The Big
Three and had a collection of some pretty good songs.
The
Merseys released six singles but no album - was one ever
planned?
An album
was planned with Tony and me writing the songs, as well as
some new Pete Townshend songs as we were very friendly with
The Who at the time.
Kit
Lambert, who was our manager and record producer and also
theirs, was starting to lose interest in us when they
started to make it in the States - so nothing materialised
album wise.
I
loved reading about your contributions to the 'Top of the
Pops' albums. Was this an experience you enjoyed? Did you
play any instruments or just provide the vocals?
We didn't
play on any of those albums but I do remember the laughs we
had! Jimmy Campbell and I got asked to finish one on The
Beatles, then a Sweet track 'Co-Co'.
But we
got the giggles when we tried to copy Sweet's singing and we
lost it in the studio! We thought we'd get the sack that
night but were forgiven and went on to do many more.
You
worked with drummer Pete Kircher, who later joined Status
Quo, in Liverpool Express.
I first
met him in Cologne, Germany in 1965. He was playing in a
band called The Burnettes with Noel Redding (guitar), Neil
Landon (vocals), Norman Hale (piano and vocals) and Jimmy
Leverton (bass). When they split up Noel bought a bass and
joined Jimi Hendrix.
Neil had
a big hit with The Flowerpot Men, 'Let's Go To San
Francisco'. Norman played piano on 'My Brother Jake' and one
or two Free albums, as well as many of Tom Jones and
Engelbert Humperdinck's big hits. Jimmy was later in Fat
Mattress with Noel.
I
noticed 'Calenture' by The Triffids listed in the
Discography section. Are you on 'Bury Me Deep In Love',
which was famously used in Harold and Madge's wedding in
Neighbours?
I can't
remember the songs I was on with The Triffids (backing
vocals). I do remember they were on Top of the Pops and they
wanted me to appear with them as their record was in the
charts.
I wasn't
in the Musician's Union at the time and someone from their
record company was shouting down the phone at me to rejoin
or I couldn't do the show. I was waiting to join Equity at
the time and you couldn't be in both.
I tried
to explain my situation but they didn't want to know. I
think their producer Gil (Norton) fell out with me because I
never heard from them again!
You
launched the book and CD at The Cavern'?
That was
one hell of a great night. We just did a few covers -
Liverpool Express, Merseys and classic rock tracks. I've
been lucky to play with some fabulous musicians in my life
and three were there that night (Kenny Parry, Dave Goldberg
and Adam Goldberg) and we rocked like hell!
Turning to the CD, had you ever thought about issuing a solo
album before and, if so, why has it taken so long?
I never
planned to make a solo album although I had two solo singles
out on the Epic label in the 70's before Liverpool Express.
I guess I've always been happier in a band than solo.
There's a great new version of 'Puttin' On The Style' on
there, and this was the first song that you ever performed
in public'?
It was
the first song I sang with my three fellow 11 year olds at
the end of our junior school years. They had guitars and we
made a tea chest bass, but having no instrument I borrowed a
pair of maracas from a mate whose dad was a sailor. Many
years before Mick Jagger of course!
As a
huge Jimmy Campbell fan, it was a real thrill to hear two of
his songs on this CD that I didn't know. When did he write
these and have they been recorded by anyone else? 'I'll Meet
You By The Lighthouse' in particular is so distinctively one
of Jimmy's songs.
I'm glad
you like ''Lighthouse' because Jimmy wrote it in the early
70's and I always loved it.
I was on
tour in America just after and I'd always play it backstage
at gigs. Peter Noone who was also on the tour would ask me
to sing it every single night and said he wanted to record
it.
Unfortunately it only had one verse and I repeated that
verse over and over along with chorus.
When I
came back to Liverpool I told Jimmy in his local pub he
must, must write another verse because 'Herman' wanted to
record it - he was still enormous in the States and could
have a massive hit with it. I bugged him all night that he
had to finish it and he could make a lot of money.
After
many pints Jimmy looked at me with very bleary eyes and said
'Tell him to F*** Off'!!! No one else has recorded it but
Jimmy finally succumbed to my nagging and two years before
he died he wrote another verse.
Are
there any other unreleased recordings by Jimmy in existence
that may see the light of day?
Watch
this space, there is a live album recorded in 1977 that's
just been discovered with many great previously unrecorded
songs on it. It will be available early in 2011.
I see
from The Merseybeats website that you are really busy with
live work. What have you got lined up for the next few
months?
We start
a Solid Silver Sixties Tour in February which will take us
right through to the end of May. Over 60 gigs and pretty
hectic but we're quite used to it by now - I think!