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SPENCER LEIGH It's Love That Really Counts - The Billy Kinsley Story (Cavern City Tours, ISBN: 978-1-873111-01-7)

Billy KinsleyBilly Kinsley was a founder member of The Merseybeats. Spencer Leigh has written a definitive account of his career and it's an action-packed roller-coaster ride from The Cavern to the present day via hit singles, touring with The Who, Apple Records, success in Brazil and much more besides!

The early chapters delve into the Kinsley family history and Billy's childhood in Liverpool. He formed a skiffle group in his last year at primary school in 1957, and his early musical influences included Buddy Holly, Billy Fury, Charlie Gracie and Joe Brown

After buying his first bass guitar, he formed The Mavericks in 1961 after meeting Tony Crane. In January 1962 they went to the Cavern in Mathew Street and saw The Beatles, who turned out to be the biggest influence in Billy's life.

His first hand recollections of seeing them are fascinating, and their repertoire of American rhythm and blues rubbed off on his own band who changed their name to The Merseybeats and became Cavern regulars themselves.

Billy discusses Pete Best's sacking from The Beatles, Brian Epstein's short spell as manager of The Merseybeats, and provides a detailed list of covers performed by the Mersey Beat groups.

They signed with Fontana Records in 1963, and by the summer they were in the charts with 'It's Love That Really Counts', on the front of the music papers and on TV!

An eventful year ended with Billy leaving the band, largely down to the group's management, questions over where the money was going, and a schedule that was affecting his health. It's worth remembering that at this point he was just 17 years old!

He returned to the band 10 months later. In 1965 they hooked up with The Who's management Kit Lambert and Chris Stamp. This period included a benefit performance for the Cavern where they attempted a 12-hour session.

They managed just under 9 hours, with drummer John Banks missing the last hour after collapsing and being carried off stage! The final Merseybeats single was the storming 'I Stand Accused'

Billy Kinsley Q&A

The Billy Kinsley Story

Was it good fun looking back and how impressed are you with the book?

It was good fun at times looking back over my career, but there were also many sad things that happened regarding my family and losing too many great friends far too early in their life.

I think Spencer did a great job digging into the archives, checking stories out, urging me to record the solo album, and patiently listening to me rambling on - story after story! We had to stop somewhere but there's still a lot of tales left to tell!

What struck me while reading the early chapters was just how young you were when The Merseybeats took off - is it strange to think back to just how much happened at that time?

Looking back it's hard to believe how young I was (14 years old) to be involved with the music revolution that took place in Liverpool in the early 60's. I was accepted by all the older musicians at the time and remain very grateful for that.

(left to right) Billy Kinsley, Aaron Williams, Tony Crane, John Banks

There was an air of excitement everywhere in the city, at every gig we played - even rehearsing new songs was enjoyable!

Our world was changing in a way that was unheard of in England. Working class teenagers becoming professional musicians!! We didn't expect anything to happen like it did, but I knew something was really special when I realised that I'd seen the best band that I'd ever see in my life - on the night I first saw The Beatles.

Judging from Tony Crane's description of the US tour after you'd left the band, it's probably a good job if your health was suffering that you'd made the decision to leave and weren't part of it.

It was put out to the press that I was leaving the band because I was having health problems but that was only part of it.

We had a manager I disliked immensely from Stockport who was taking us to the cleaners good style - and it wasn't to get our suits cleaned!!! He was ripping us off and no one wanted to do anything about it. When he was finally sacked I went back in the band but he'd left us with nothing.

You didn't write any songs for The Merseybeats. Were you a late developer as a songwriter?

I wouldn't say I was a late developer when I started writing because I was still only 17 years old when I wrote my first song. Tony and Aaron got theirs in before me!

We did a lot of covers in The Merseybeats as the other Liverpool bands did and we'd never looked at writing our own, but when John Gustafson took over from me he pushed them to write their own. He had been writing when he was with The Big Three and had a collection of some pretty good songs.

The Merseys

The Merseys released six singles but no album - was one ever planned?

An album was planned with Tony and me writing the songs, as well as some new Pete Townshend songs as we were very friendly with The Who at the time.

Kit Lambert, who was our manager and record producer and also theirs, was starting to lose interest in us when they started to make it in the States - so nothing materialised album wise.

I loved reading about your contributions to the 'Top of the Pops' albums. Was this an experience you enjoyed? Did you play any instruments or just provide the vocals?

We didn't play on any of those albums but I do remember the laughs we had! Jimmy Campbell and I got asked to finish one on The Beatles, then a Sweet track 'Co-Co'.

But we got the giggles when we tried to copy Sweet's singing and we lost it in the studio! We thought we'd get the sack that night but were forgiven and went on to do many more.

You worked with drummer Pete Kircher, who later joined Status Quo, in Liverpool Express.

I first met him in Cologne, Germany in 1965. He was playing in a band called The Burnettes with Noel Redding (guitar), Neil Landon (vocals), Norman Hale (piano and vocals) and Jimmy Leverton (bass). When they split up Noel bought a bass and joined Jimi Hendrix.

Neil had a big hit with The Flowerpot Men, 'Let's Go To San Francisco'. Norman played piano on 'My Brother Jake' and one or two Free albums, as well as many of Tom Jones and Engelbert Humperdinck's big hits. Jimmy was later in Fat Mattress with Noel.

I noticed 'Calenture' by The Triffids listed in the Discography section. Are you on 'Bury Me Deep In Love', which was famously used in Harold and Madge's wedding in Neighbours?

I can't remember the songs I was on with The Triffids (backing vocals). I do remember they were on Top of the Pops and they wanted me to appear with them as their record was in the charts.

I wasn't in the Musician's Union at the time and someone from their record company was shouting down the phone at me to rejoin or I couldn't do the show. I was waiting to join Equity at the time and you couldn't be in both.

I tried to explain my situation but they didn't want to know. I think their producer Gil (Norton) fell out with me because I never heard from them again!

You launched the book and CD at The Cavern'?

That was one hell of a great night. We just did a few covers - Liverpool Express, Merseys and classic rock tracks. I've been lucky to play with some fabulous musicians in my life and three were there that night (Kenny Parry, Dave Goldberg and Adam Goldberg) and we rocked like hell!

Turning to the CD, had you ever thought about issuing a solo album before and, if so, why has it taken so long?

I never planned to make a solo album although I had two solo singles out on the Epic label in the 70's before Liverpool Express. I guess I've always been happier in a band than solo.

There's a great new version of 'Puttin' On The Style' on there, and this was the first song that you ever performed in public'?

It was the first song I sang with my three fellow 11 year olds at the end of our junior school years. They had guitars and we made a tea chest bass, but having no instrument I borrowed a pair of maracas from a mate whose dad was a sailor. Many years before Mick Jagger of course!

As a huge Jimmy Campbell fan, it was a real thrill to hear two of his songs on this CD that I didn't know. When did he write these and have they been recorded by anyone else? 'I'll Meet You By The Lighthouse' in particular is so distinctively one of Jimmy's songs.

I'm glad you like ''Lighthouse' because Jimmy wrote it in the early 70's and I always loved it.

I was on tour in America just after and I'd always play it backstage at gigs. Peter Noone who was also on the tour would ask me to sing it every single night and said he wanted to record it.

Unfortunately it only had one verse and I repeated that verse over and over along with chorus.

When I came back to Liverpool I told Jimmy in his local pub he must, must write another verse because 'Herman' wanted to record it - he was still enormous in the States and could have a massive hit with it. I bugged him all night that he had to finish it and he could make a lot of money.

After many pints Jimmy looked at me with very bleary eyes and said 'Tell him to F*** Off'!!! No one else has recorded it but Jimmy finally succumbed to my nagging and two years before he died he wrote another verse.

Are there any other unreleased recordings by Jimmy in existence that may see the light of day?

Watch this space, there is a live album recorded in 1977 that's just been discovered with many great previously unrecorded songs on it. It will be available early in 2011.

I see from The Merseybeats website that you are really busy with live work. What have you got lined up for the next few months?

We start a Solid Silver Sixties Tour in February which will take us right through to the end of May. Over 60 gigs and pretty hectic but we're quite used to it by now - I think!
 

Billy and Tony became The Merseys and, needing a killer first single, they selected 'Sorrow' (previously recorded by US garage band The McCoys). Billy came up with a counter melody, and it went on to reach #4 in the UK charts - it was later covered by David Bowie and there's a clear nod to the song in the fadeout of the Beatles number 'It's All Too Much'.

Billy shares some memories of touring with The Who, and even reveals that he and Tony could have ended up in a band with John Entwistle, Keith Moon and Jimmy Page that Page was planning to name Led Zeppelin!

The late 60's saw Billy involved with the Apple label and playing with Jackie Lomax and Doris Troy. He then played on two Jimmy Campbell solo albums and with Jimmy on the superb Rockin' Horse long player 'Yes It Is'. Rockin' Horse also accompanied Chuck Berry on a UK tour. With Berry unwilling to rehearse, the band was instructed to stop playing when he lifted his foot!

By 1973, Billy was combining a nightly residency in a Liverpool restaurant with daily recording sessions in London for the series of 'Top of the Pops' albums issued by Hallmark. These were budget priced and made up of anonymous cover versions of current hits.

For an album of Beatles hits, Billy was Paul and Jimmy Campbell was John! The real Paul later told album producer Bruce Baxter that he'd picked the right guy! The image of Billy on the train to London wearing headphones, learning that day's songs and writing down the lyrics is certainly an evocative and somewhat romantic vision!

Billy's return to a regular band came with Liverpool Express, whose second single 'You Are My Love' was later cited by Paul McCartney as one of his favourite songs. Another chart hit came with 'Every Man Must Have A Dream' and they enjoyed vast success in Brazil. The chart action continued into the 1980's with Billy appearing on two singles by Coast To Coast.

Billy and Tony Crane reunited in 1988 to take over a local recording studio. The La's demoed tracks there and, not realising who Billy was, the notoriously difficult Lee Mavers refused a tuner for his guitar and told him they wanted to sound like a 60's band! Billy hadn't the heart to tell him that they'd have given anything for tuners back in the 60's!

Highlights of recent years include a one-off (and typically eventful!) reunion with Chuck Berry, and a 9/11 charity event 'jam' with The Philharmonic Orchestra. Billy had rejoined The Merseybeats full-time in 1992 and they continue to enjoy a busy live schedule to this day.

This is a superb book, which details all aspects of Billy Kinsley's career and gives a great insight into life as working musician. It's filled with lots of humour and memorable anecdotes, and there's a detailed discography.

Billy has also put together his first solo album to coincide with the book. It features a new and slower arrangement of 'It's Love That Really Counts', the tribute to skiffle 'Puttin' On The Style', the poignant 'Every Now And Then', a lovely cover of Ronnie Milsap's hit 'I Wouldn't Have Missed It For The World', a previously unfinished Liverpool Express song 'Natural High' and the catchy opener 'Cold Light Of Day'.

There are also recordings of two songs by the late, great Jimmy Campbell - 'Banks Of The Old River Mersey' and 'I'll Meet You By The Lighthouse'. The book comes with a voucher to purchase the CD, but if you order via http://www.spencerleigh.demon.co.uk/ then you get both together for a lower price.

****

Review by Jim Henderson

Jim Henderson presents "Power Pop" on Get Ready to ROCK! Radio, Sunday 18:00 (first and last Sunday of each month)


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